The 65mm T2 completes Vazen's set of anamorphic lenses for the Micro Four Thirds system. The arri xt has similar sized pixels, being a super-35 sensor. Great to see this for the S1H. ... Panasonic S1H. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the S1H would be used as a B-Roll camera. Once you begin to see them, they become highly distracting. Also, he knew nothing about making content for streaming services. I understand that the S1H 6K mode uses short cuts that dip below the Netflix threshold. It helps to read and understand the linked article before calling it Fake News. Using the Black Magic speed analyzer for storage devices, the highest frame rate for ProRes 422 HQ to a standard SD card is 21 fps. It also features nearly 150 wonderful images from past Olympics games. RED. MIOPS has announced Flex, a new smart camera gadget designed to make it easy and simple to capture lightning strikes, action images, holy grail timelapse videos and much more. Log gamma, 10-bit is the minimum requirement for grading, and keeping the video within legal broadcast limits without crushing the blacks or highlights. It's nice to see Panasonic recognized for the S1H, they deserve it, but NetFlix needs to layoff specs and work on the end result. Lots of posters here, including you, will take care of this "important" task! This could be huge for the S1H right, might be a popular camera now? "Panasonic just got their S1H in a door to a room full of other people having a dance party. @ Marty G9: No, I have not said that Dpreview is attacking brands. LOL!!! Sony continues to protect their more expensive "pro" line by crippling their ILCs. DR is just one of them. The Panasonic S1H has been approved by Netflix for use as an 'A' (primary) camera for filming Netflix Originals productions on the platform. As part of the LUMIX S series, Panasonic aims to release them on the global market early 2019. Everyone wants footage that can be future proof with the possibility of 4K HDR. @pannuman - yeah pre-2017 movies like The Godfather, Barry Lyndon, Apocalypse Now, One flew from the cuckoo’s nest, etc are not worth watching anymore, right? Popular culture is not culture at all. Continuous AF doesn’t even exist on the majority of the Netflix-approved cameras. Jordan still shoots most video with the GH5. How about providing a link to a proper source. Many movies that have $200 million budgets have been filmed with..... film, which does not have 4k resolution. The people that do however point to the camera body as one of the least prioritised components. The A9 has very low rolling shutter skew and breathtaking continuous AF, it would be a perfect video camera with high bitrates and slog. Miki Nemeth - This kinda show you don't know much about video. I agree, the noise in some dark scenes is really distracting. Listen Marty G9, ozturert and the likes, the initial comment by Magnar W. was not meant to talk down the Pana, but rather to make fun out of those gear white lists. Other Panasonic cameras are already at the party. Panasonic Lumix S1H Becomes First Netflix-Certified Mirrorless Camera. fPrime never mentioned sony.... someone is clearly a sony hater though, C'mon edn80, the A7III only crops by 20% for 4K30. I can't even bear the thought of watching that stuff again. ". It includes advanced video features such as 6K resolution, 4:2:2 10-bit internal recording, V-Log gamma, video scopes, anamorphic support and numerous small details a videographer would love. Nothing more nothing less. Potentially. It makes life so much easier when you don't have complete control of lighting. Look how long it took RED to get accepted for live action cinematography. all more important. You can blame the readers if you want. Netflix has published its requirements for cameras and settings that must be used when creating Netflix shows, and this list has generally included higher-end (and much larger cinema), cameras. Just let down as a stills camera by lack of OSPDAF. But the Internet is not a printed book… (Did that really need pointing out?) Sonys A7s low res sensor with it's super low colour noise is the most special one I know. Yes. @Henricusmaria - any relevant information where I can find that some other relevant factors are taken into consideration or you are just making things up?In netflixes paper there is pretty straightforward spec cameras should cover. Movies with $200 million budgets use them with the intent for 4k distribution. The S1H records to SD cards, which are not nearly fast enough for 4K60 10-bit video without heavy compression. "400 MHz (Mb/s)", from the post to which you refer. Which camera has the best audio pre-amps ? The affordable APS-C Contemporary primes, too. The Panasonic S1H is a full-frame mirrorless camera aimed primarily at movie shooters. Your skill at saying the opposite of what you mean is greater than the ability of the readers to decode your meaning. They don't have to. :) Although I think the bigger problem with Netflix is there is nothing worth watching, and everything good gets cancelled. You and anyone who believes that “law” have real problems.There. Ten years ago it was a founding member of the Micro Four Thirds group with Olympus, before joining forces with Leica and Sigma last year to form the L-Mount Alliance. Because consistency and quality are intertwined when distributing entertainment and there are serious people working at Netflix who want to produce the best experience possible for their customers. There is some serious Sony hysteria happening on DPR right now. Its a social construct of lowest common denominators. THat's because for every good movie they make, Netflix makes like 30 horrible movies. My YouTube vlog is about to be a Netflix original. @MrBrightSideCinema lenses (the good ones anyway) also tend to be made in sets with matching constrast & colour so that the look of the capture remains consistent throughout the scene. That is fantastic news for Panasonic. The forthcoming L mount FF Foveon would be the premier camera for stills, albeit not a versatile one. A full time focus puller is going to care about the rig around the lens, not the mount. Sony's Tough SD Cards do 300MB/s Read and 299MB/s Write. I have the Pany S1 with the vlog upgrade, and that is also a great hybrid camera for photos and video. However at current time, no other cameras, including these two comes close to the codec options and processing power you can get from S1H. With rolling shutter artifacts and inferior codec. But I'm hoping that you can get around that by capturing ProRes Raw from the S1H on an Atomos. "The fact is that this s1h puts out a more detailed picture than the cameras used to film most of the movies you have seen in your lifetime--unless you are 10 years old or so.". You are actively missing the point it seems. Perhaps they should use proper cameras instead of trying to certify cameras that clearly are not up to the job. Maybe the wise thing to do is not to care if people comprehend whether a given statement is sarcastic or not. ;-), "Maybe an updated A7s model will change this". Ain't it just sad, huh, to be limited to no 4K60p 8bit 4:2:0 on your Sony MILC in 2019? There is no pack. You mean to tell me that reading a printed book now needs emojis? Long version: the S1H supports UHS-II cards which can write at up to 260MB/s or 1040Mb/s, way beyond the 400Mp=b/s rates of either the camera or the Netflix requirements. Since BMPCC 4K 6K that shoot raw 12 bit 60fps not in the list. The 24mm F3.5, 35mm F2 and 65mm F2 DG DN share similar designs and have weather-sealed metal bodies. RED. The key word is strategically, affordability is consequently included.Chapeau, Panasonic..! Please don't under a rock. Camera Guide. Take a closer look. I want my XH-1 and 100F Netflix certified, too !!! Last week one posted about how he thinks there will be an A9iii early next year. Do you mistake me for a blind brand partisan claiming Panasonic superiority over your favorite brand? That should be good news for everyone. At least that's the way I understood his (funny) comment. Now there is full frame Panasonic S1/S1H, unmatched quality in consumer level, rivaling professional gear. Dario's desk (because I don't have one) by adriparro. While hybrids look like terrible good value, they do cost some extra effort and a pretty penny to rig out to the level of the videocamera's they compete with. The Arri (obviously) crushes the S1H in every aspect including, likely, spatial fidelity.". @fmian so you don't consider Leica lenses as having enough quality for "cinema lenses" whatever that means. Cmon. I know the good Sony owners hate people like that too. I am enjoying how people say Netlix distributes "the worst" The Irishman. Or they should have higher standards...". Fake bohkeh makes it even more valid. @User1234567890 Sigma's current ART primes are releasing for L mount, as well as more lenses designed to utilise the advantages of mirrourless. Obviously you are ignoring. Since I had the A9 for a year, I wouldn't step back to manual focus in video. I see the statement above that currently the S1H is the only camera on the certified list. Oh, and it's a lot of fun too. In our latest buying guide we've selected some cameras that might be a bit older but still offer a lot of bang for the buck. Thank you for signing up to Digital Camera World. The Panasonic LUMIX S1H is not only the first mirrorless camera on Netflix's list of approved cameras, but it's also the most affordable.. Netflix is pretty particular when it comes to the ways in which their original content is captured. @Ed Ingold - you're mixing up big "B" megaBYTES with small "b" megaBITS. It’s the total set of factors that they are looking at. If they can show otherwise, then I'd welcome it. I had GH5 footage side-by-side with 1080p lossless RAW URSA footage, and the difference in detail between the two is just night and day (the URSA has less resolution, but much more spatial fidelity). LOL, horrible. (Yes I just made my own straw man/false analogy). Even Netflix doesn't require 4K60. Isn't L - mount the system which lenses have so huge price that makes Sony GM lenses affordable? Since then, Panasonic cameras are fixated on video. Attempting to make it appear to be better than it really is. $3000 is not a big gap for a video production. Well done Panasonic. There are indeed, and you can’t simply expect not to be mistaken for one if the only thing that people observe from you is you stating the opposite of what you mean in an attempt at being “sarcastic”, regardless of whether they agree with you or not. This can be seen in low light noise and highlight details. They're only good for Instagram. Hasselblad medium format is all-in on digital corrections, as is micro 4/3, but video so far doesn't seem to put much value on them. DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. Can the S1H actually shoot 10-bit 4:2:2 All-I (400Mbps) internally, or does that need an external recorder? Check out the winners of the 2020 DPReview Awards! I dont see anywhere of these "other thimgs taken into consideration".., Please note, not all cameras that meet these requirements will be approved as primary cameras. They have always been a leader in video with their GH cameras and now even better with S1 series FF cameras. In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing around $2000 and recommended the best. A site is as serious as its commenters are. Thank you Zxaar - you are one as well! Yongnuo, makers of lenses, cameras and other photo accessories, has filed a patent for a modular mirrorless camera system. Now you're quoting another true believer... Ha Ha be hold the power of big company HaHa. Senior Editor Barney Britton's Gear of the Year part two details how he ended up with a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm F11, and despite its quirks, why it was ideal for a creative project in the COVID-era. It’s just that I strongly disagree with your initial statement (again, look up Poe’s law) and I found it hard to be completely sure that you were really defending it. Camera : Effective Pixels: Preferred Recording Format: RED KOMODO 6K. I don't understand those responses. This is an aesthetic choice, which is fine, but don't go selling me that the image produced in this way is somehow SHARPER than that of an Arri upscaled. Except for certain types of documentaries, AF is not used for serious productions. I've just checked ebay, and you can buy decent S35 FS7 for $4500. Have a question or need help with an issue? Chris and Jordan take a look at the new Sigma 35mm F2 and 65mm F2. My point was that for any given bit-rate, Long GOP will store considerably more information than All-Intra, especially if it's using H.265 / HEVC compression. S1H Approved for Netflix Original Productions The LUMIX S1H is the first mirrorless cinema camera to join the Netflix Approved camera list. RED IQ has been pretty lackluster the past 5 years. First, congrats to Panasonic! They shoot on such a variety of equipment and with so many aspect ratios they are careful to be quite specific.Also, they generally use locking mounts rather than bayonet. You don't need to spend a fortune to buy a camera that's designed for videography. Vaporware no more: the much-speculated-about Zeiss ZX1 has arrived. Now, as the year winds down, we're highlighting some of our standout products of the year. 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Clearly, Canon, Panasonic and Sony all makes multiple cameras which meet that professional production standard, along with ARRI, RED and BlackMagic. The 6K is new enough that it might just not be through the paperwork/certification testing yet, @BJL that feels totally plausible - I'm not sure how extensive their testing is, but on paper the BMPCC models meet the specs 400mbps is 50MB/s. Every set of cinema FF lenses will mount fine. Stop talking nonsense.2. Panasonic already have a bunch of cameras in the Netflix list, there are already FF or larger sensor cameras on that list, and from what I can see they are all mirrorless. I don't know why you are copying and pasting this or typing it. You know "it's more expensive". Definitely the S1H is a serious step and even Sony users, like me, highly appreciate this camera, no question. Production units are allowed to use it as a main camera shooting in either DCI 4K (4,096 x 2,160) or Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160) resolutions. What crap. Most film students shoot their Thesis' on Alexa's but that doesn't mean anything. Panasonic AK-UC4000. Sony has the tech to make a competitor, but in the past 3 years has chosen not to. I should try renting a DVD of a show/movie that's available on Netflix and see if I the noise and/or macroblocking is still present in the dark areas. Plus for certain things, certain tools are not just important but necessary. Panasonic GH4/GH4s/GH5/GH5s went a bit further with sensor sizes, but did not have RAW. @PavelR2 what has that got to do with anything I said? Besides, my Fuji camera wont be added because only Fuji i shppt with is the x100 line. I have heard claims that decent films were made before 2017, but I find it hard to believe because technology was not ready. Telling people 'it is no problem' is like sticking the head in the sand and ignoring problems with this camera. Conversely, the butthurt tone of your answers talks volumes about your own brand insecurity. That is impressive and they deserve to be congratulated for their achievement. @ MikiI'm putting my hope on the Fuji XH2, which will get the 4k60 10bit 422 and CAF from XT3 as well as IBIS and ergonomics from XH1. The pixels always appear in the same place, only the intensity of the noise varies. When Alexa Arri systems are rejected by Netflix, you know it's gotta be damn good. Also, I have no idea why you are equivocating megahertz and megabytes per second. Greg S . The Panasonic S1H is the first mirrorless camera (and the cheapest body) to be certified for Netflix Originals productions. last year. But I could not completely discard that possibility either. Or you can say what you mean and have people understand you. Here's a 30 sec google search that has plenty already written on the subject. That means you can shoot a Netflix Original with a $4,000 camera. lol. Granted these might not be productions made/produced/overseen/etc by Netflix itself, but they show on there so it isn't as if everything that can be seen on there is of the very highest quality 4k standard. We've combed through the options and selected our two favorite cameras in this class. Although it's likely not the fault of Netflix. Pro movie production doesn't use AF, which means adapting lenses is fair game. and the like were really weighty. Panasonic is up to 13 sales now, hooray! What’s the best camera for around $2000? They pay for the content creation, they care accordingly. oh geez,A7000, A7s3, etc. People don't switch brand for just one camera model. Video gets grainy and not blotchy 1-2 stops beyond what you can do with other sensors. No camera can do that... 400Mbps via H264 compression vs 400Mbps ProRes compression are two completely different things. It did prove though that folks will go see a film that lacks anything like traditional production values. With that said I don't mind Netflix having strict rules but in reality there are cameras that are certainly better than the ones listed on the approved list. If you're looking for a high-quality camera, you don't need to spend a ton of cash, nor do you need to buy the latest and greatest new product on the market. Just another pad on their backs to be pleased. It goes to back to SLTs which could have been great for video, but Sony deliberately crippled them and scr3wed SLT owners . an unexpectedly successful achievement.2. Panasonic has also made numerous tweaks to help you adjust and monitor video, while fixing bugs like color banding in 10-bit 4:2:0 mode. Well, the Panny gives easy acces to L-mount with some really nice lenses. Actually they made some changes because in the past it had to be 4000+ pixels, now 3840 are allowed. Secondly, all the best glass will fit the Arri's and the RED's etc, right out the Pelican.If a movie for Netflix had some serious funding, does anyone here think for a minute that the director and cinematographer would simply bang it all together on a camera with such a relatively short history? I have personally used it with at highest possible codec options on V-log L.. Never saw it a problem!well said s1oth1overchunk! Folks forget that it wasn't always this way and in the 70s the most popular filks by the likes of Scorsese, Coppola, Freidken (sp?) Maybe an updated A7s model will change this? Sure ARRI's sensors have larger photosites and highlights will not blow out anywhere as easy. The capture settings Netflix is requiring of the S1H, according to the camera production guide linked above. I think that DPR must take some action for trolling comments. Sure there's less rolling shutter artifacts. First steps towards professional level video image quality with a consumer level camera happened to be a hacked Canon DSLR. enjoy your new camera mate .. but also post your findings here :). Camera Guide. Canon, Sony and Fujifilm do not. Seeing as the Panasonic does not record prores without an external unit to begin with, all of your points are moot and just confusing. It was shot with first-time actors I believe and used 3 iPhone 5s cameras. @pollup - any quote from where did you get this "other things are being taken into considerstion". I am a casual video shooter with FZ2500 and that's just my theory. All you have is small snippets of text like “When will those Netflix hipsters open their eyes to the wonders of smartphones and ‘computational’ imaging?”, which a large set of people really believes. Panasonic leads the pack for video. There are Blackmagic cameras on the list though, so it’s not a boycott. Yeah, Sony is stuck with the FS5, FS7, FX9, and up the ladder. Canon EOS-1Dx mk III is probably what you want, lottery win allowing... DPAF 4k 422 10-bit 60p internal and also internal Raw video (no idea if that will be 4k though). I said the problem is that the S1H's temporal noise reduction is NON-defeatable. “The arri has slightly larger pixels. An upscaled Arri will have a WAY sharper picture than an a7 III, for example, even though the a7 III natively shoots an oversampled 6k image that is output at 4k. We're glad you asked. It is great for Panasonic to be the first to get this Netflix approval, and it is well deserved, as it is a great camera. That doesn't mean those cameras should magically be exempted from the rules. Your own ignorance doesn’t negate anything. All I records every frame so you're getting an accurate recording from the sensor where Long GOP guesses the frames inbetween. That is someone's ill informed opinion. I am not sure about some point in far future, where there might be other competitors in DSLR or mirrorless world who can compete with it, at the moment it helps bringing the clarity to producers what camera meets the minimum standards. Dye clouds are the size of baseballs when projected on a theater screen. MF is ok for big budget production where paying experienced focus pullers is not a problem. Technical Editor Richard Butler's pick was the unusual lens that gave him the opportunity to try something new. Table of Contents. Point is they certainly have a variety of visual styles, even in their original content, but I still think they have a more clear interest in aligning their video library's format so they can package it accordingly by, for example, charging you more for 4K resolutions and being able to describe in some detail what the difference is you're paying for. Just more options for the people having a party. What is the Netflix recommended settings for the Panasonic S1H? It also is less than half the area of the panasonic s1h so the sensitivites aren't really comparable, the panasonic has more pixels per unit image so will not "blow out as easily". image stabilization system. Netflix certifies the Panasonic S1H for productions, making it the smallest (and only stills/video) camera on the list. Probably because 60fps is not "cinematic". It is probably due to compression. "And I don't know what straw man/false equivalency you are ascribing to me with your iphone comment so I will just ignore it.". The Panasonic S1H is now finally available for purchasing and we took it for a spin in order to put it through its paces. for their resolution or colour depth. Rolling shutter? Not since Panasonic execs had a surprise after the launch of the GH2 when people started praising the video. I hear about so many productions being done with smaller, cheaper gear like 4k m43. UHD: 3840x2160 - Baseband Video. It's the reason the best 8K footage to demonstrate a camera and monitor combination is completely forgettable in comparison to, just for example, North by Northwest, a classic for many reasons, none of which are for the camera type. User Manual. Other attributes must be taken into account such as dynamic range, form factor, stability, workflow compatibility etc.‘. If one shoots occasional family and personal travel video the cameras you have is good enough. Or even earlier given the activity. That makes sense. I don't understand why people ignorantly comment about whatever random thing they don't know anything about. But not always.A few companies rehouse old Nikkors to be used for cinema work.Leica makes a couple of lines of cinema lenses, the next time you’re at the movies watch the credits to the end, they usually list the lenses used. Perhaps Netflix thinks that, for viewing video from sensible distances, 4K is already so much more than the human eye can resolve, that upscaling a slight crop, when necessary, will not even be noticed as such, while everything above 4K is sheer overkill, not just as such, but – at least at this point in time – also for the necessary computing power and data transfer bandwith? Very funny! Mhz means a million cycles per second and has nothing to do with a million bits per second. Their sensor sizes were quite limiting though. As we continue to test Nikon's update of its multimedia full-framer, we've added more of our findings so far on image quality, dynamic range and video quality. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2020 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. ARRI’s approach to sensor design especially in regards to pixel size has been talked about for years. £99.99 GoPro Hero7 White deal! For the price, there is no match for S1H.Difficult to understand for trolls of that specific brand. From Netflix point of view, I hope that this is just the beginning and they will continue to certify others. I see references to the lack of 4K60 full-frame cameras, yet the S1R has been out for some time now with that capability - though, it is x1.09, but that's probably to do with the arithmetic efficencies. Given that no one bothers to read those sucomments down to this point (except Magnar W, myself and Marty G9), the first like is probably self-granted, but for the second there are two options. Now, with its ascension to the Netflix Post Technology Alliance, Panasonic is keeping even more exclusive company. "SeanzzxxResolution =/= spatial fidelity. They can give the specs for their video and define all the parameters/boundaries that the videos have to comply with but cannot say that only specific cameras/models can be used. ;). Congrats to them, but it doesn't really mean anything. @ozturert- Interesting point. Make an argument other than, "it's more expensive". Focus hunting under artificial light seems to be no problem for Netflix. You still haven't made an actual point. The S1H is the first *stills-motion hybrid* on the list. ARRI has larger photosites. The rear camera (or cameras) on an iPhone has all the latest bells and whistles, but how do you use them to capture a selfie or record a video of yourself? Way to go Panasonic!It shows, as we already knew, Panasonic is committed to making their ILC the best for video as well as stills. Pretty sure this certification is only relevant for content directly acquired by Netflix as Netflix original specials. There’s absolutely no technical reason to suggest why this camera would be “for B roll only”. Panasonic has added 5.9K Raw video output to its Lumix DC-S1H full-frame mirrorless stills/video camera, allowing the recording of ProRes RAW with an Atomos Ninja V recorder. You shoot your main feature with an F55, b-roll as well ow possibly an FS7 if money is tight. for the quote. Content sucks and sound and mixing is so much worse than the sixties and seventies. 2160 is outside the capability at any frame rate. It helps to read and understand before replying. Sony will continue to do well. Seriously, there's no technical reason for the comment that this be for B roll only.

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